Monday, March 12, 2007

Starting to find relief?

Sorry Pete, we are bringing up the Lieber thing again. I read today that the Phils are now talking about using Lieber or Eaton in the bullpen, since the trade offers for Lieber aren't good. I still think its an injury away from falling into place, but if all our bullpen hopefuls are struggling, this becomes an intriguing, if short term, solution.

The question is: which one? I dont know who has the stuff that is better suited for the bullpen. Lieber is more the workhorse type pitcher, not going to miss starts and going to give you lots of innings. Eaton would be that guy if healthy, although even if they both made 35 starts, I'd wager on Lieber throwing more innings. Lieber gives up more homeruns, but he pitched in the Bank last year as opposed to Eaton in big park San Diego for a few seasons, so it's hard to tell. Neither walks that many guys, and Lieber's walk to strikeout ratio is great.

It isn't a cost issue, because their salaries are about the same. Both have expressed a willingness to do whatever it takes, and to pitch in Philadelphia. But if the Phillies still want to trade Lieber, they probably have to leave him in the rotation. He may pitch well in the pen and show some teams his versitility, but they will sell him as a starter and he will be bought as a starter. Besides, we wouldn't trade him for bullpen help if he was good in the bullpen, unless someone really overwhelmed us with multiple pitchers for Lieber. Eaton, on the other hand, might benefit from the bullpen, if he is as injury prone as I think he is. It hasn't been an endurance issue, but nagging injuries, which might be reduced if he throws fewer pitches per night. Unless you are worried about Lieber's weight, like the whole media seems to be, then maybe not asking him to go out for 7 innings and 110 pitches is for the best.

Probably need a scout to make this call, someone who can evaluate their stuff rather than try to remember what they look like by reading a few superficial stats on the web. What do you think?

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think Eaton in the bullpen might be a good idea if Gillick can't move Lieber. It is also nice to have an extra starter around in case somebody gets hurt. And usually one of the starting pitchers always breaks down sometime during the season. Lieber's value can really only go up from here, so the longer you hold on to him, the more valuable he becomes as trade bait.

Pete said...

Well both are pitching well so far this spring so they seem to realize what's at stake. Hopefully they both rise to the occasion if they are around at the start of the season so we have to decide between 6 effective pitchers...a good problem to have.

I am just getting tired of the trade rumor BS...sports illustrated is now saying a Rowand and Lieber package to the ChiSox for Fields or Crede or a couple relievers and some prospects. I mean come on...the time for random trade rumors is over...it's spring, at least talk about the meaningless play on the field.

Pete said...

Oh yea, I like the title you clever bastard

klkatz said...

either way we can't lose. I think having 6 starters is a good thing no matter how you look at it. if this is one of our worries, then we're in good shape...

i say go with the hot hand from the beginning...

with King Cole's back problems, keeping Lieber around will pay off...

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